Can anyone list for me an ANALOGy hardware equivelent?

[SA2K]

Are there poly+mono desktop hardware module equivelents to the Voltage Modular ANALOGy module that anyone in this forum knows of? I want to get something just as good but in hardware that can function in both mono+poly that has the same morphing oscillators/assignable filters/filter overdrive/envelopes/spread/detune and I don't know what's out there off hand.

[utdgrant]

My first instinct would be the ASM Hydrasynth range.

8 Voice Advanced Wavetable synthesis

Oscillators 1 and 2: Wavemorphing oscillators
　　•　219 single-cycle waveforms
　　•　User wavetables
　　　　◦　8 user-selectable waves per oscillator to build custom wavetables
　　　　◦　WaveScan parameter lets you morph through the wavetables
　　　　◦　Every patch can have two unique wavetables
　　•　Bit reduction: 11 settings from 2 to 16 bits, and Off
　　•　+/- 3 octave tuning range
　　•　Keytracking: 0-200%

Oscillator 3: fixed Wave oscillator
　　•　219 single-cycle waveforms
　　•　Bit reduction: 11 settings from 2 to 16 bits, and Off
　　•　+/- 3 octave tuning range
　　•　Keytracking: 0-200%

Dual Mutants per oscillator (Osc 1 and 2)
　　•　FM: Linear FM
　　　　◦　Selectable Modulator source:
　　　　　　-　Internal Sine & Triangle waves, Oscillators 1-3, Ring Mod, Noise generator, Mutants 1-4, External Mod inputs 1 & 2
　　•　WavStack™: Generates 5 detuned waves from the input source, with adjustable detune amount
　　•　Hard Sync (Osc Sync): gives that classic sync sweep sound
　　　　◦　Selectable sync input source: Oscillators 1-3
　　　　◦　Adjustable Hann window to shape the output
　　•　Pulse Width Modulation (PW-Orig): Adjusts the pulse width of any waveform
　　•　PW-Squeeze: Compresses the center section of the waveform, for a unique type of PWM
　　•　PW-ASM: 8 adjustable Warp points can be applied to the waveform, for a unique form of FM synthesis
　　　　◦　Warp points can be modulated individually through the Mod Matrix
　　•　Harmonic Sweep: scans through the harmonics of the incoming waveform
　　•　PhazDiff: creates a new sound by combining phase shifting and summing techniques
　　•　Depth control for all Mutants
　　•　FeedBack control for all Mutants (except WavStack): 0-150%
　　•　Ratio control for Osc Sync, Harmonic, and all PWM Mutants: 0.250:1 - 64:1
　　　　◦　Mutations occur up to 64 times in one waveform cycle, or as few as once in four cycles
　　•　Dry/Wet mix to blend the input source with the Mutant output

Noise Generator
　　•　White, Pink, Brown, Red, Blue, Violet, Grey noise sources

Ring Modulator
　　•　Selectable input source:
　　　　◦　Oscillators 1-3, Noise, Mutants 1-4, External Mod inputs 1 & 2
　　•　Depth control

Sound source mixer
　　•　Independent level control for Oscillators 1-3, Noise, and Ring Mod
　　•　Panning for each source
　　•　Filter routing mix
　　•　Each source can be soloed
　　　　◦　Solo status is saved with the patch

Two Filters
　　•　Series or parallel routing
　　•　Filter 1
　　　　◦　12 & 24dB/octave modern ladder (compensated)
　　　　◦　12 & 24dB/octave vintage ladder (uncompensated)
　　　　◦　3-Ler LP, BP, HP
　　　　◦　MS20 HP, LP
　　　　◦　Low Pass Gate
　　　　◦　STN LP, BP, HP
　　　　◦　1 pole LP
　　　　◦　8 pole LP
　　　　◦　Vocal filter
　　　　◦　Multiple vowel order options
　　　　　　-　Formant parameter
　　•　Filter 2 (SEM style)
　　　　◦　Continuously Variable Low pass > Band pass > High pass
　　　　◦　Continuously Variable Low pass > Notch > High pass

Patch-level parameters
　　•　Poly, Mono, and Unison modes
　　•　Two glide modes: Glide and Glissando
　　•　60 scales available, including microtonal
　　　　◦　New scales can be imported from third-party software
　　•　VoiceMod: independent modulation levels available per voice, per patch
　　•　MPE support
　　•　NRPN / CC automation capability
　　•　Randomize or initialize parameters, modules, or an entire patch

[Waverley Instruments]

First off, let me say it's pretty cool to see this question being asked - normally it's the other way round! This is a Cherry Audio forum after all

For those who don't know ANALOGy5 isn't based on any known hardware or software synth, and we like to think it has its own thing going on sound-wise.

That said, any decent virtual analog synth with a flexible mod matrix and built-in effects might be able to get you into similar sonic territory. The COBALT5S springs to mind as something a bit more wallet-friendly.

Here's an overview / demo of ANALOGy5 for anyone interested:

https://youtu.be/YkZqK2l5NBo?si=pHbMnKbqgl7qViu2

Cheers, -Rob @ WI

[SA2K]

First off, let me say it's pretty cool to see this question being asked - normally it's the other way round! This is a Cherry Audio forum after all

For those who don't know ANALOGy5 isn't based on any known hardware or software synth, and we like to think it has its own thing going on sound-wise.

That said, any decent virtual analog synth with a flexible mod matrix and built-in effects might be able to get you into similar sonic territory. The COBALT5S springs to mind as something a bit more wallet-friendly.

Here's an overview / demo of ANALOGy5 for anyone interested:

https://youtu.be/YkZqK2l5NBo?si=pHbMnKbqgl7qViu2

Cheers, -Rob @ WI

For a budget module ANALOGy is top notch in my opinion for things like keys & pads & mono synths but I never got the taste of hardware much as I've always stayed digital. It's been claimed that for the difference in price between hardware and software hardware is often better. The Cobalt sounded richer than ANALOGy but I don't like the demo material. Do you have any more expensive hardware synths you could recommend that can match the features of ANALOGy and outdo it's sound quality?

I thoroughly reviewed hardware preset packs vs software preset packs and find that the software presets are convincingly better programmed than what's available for the classic hardware synths out there for some reason. Things like Omnisphere and u-He synths and so on seemingly have more dedicated preset programmers.

[SA2K]

My first instinct would be the ASM Hydrasynth range.

8 Voice Advanced Wavetable synthesis

Oscillators 1 and 2: Wavemorphing oscillators
　　•　219 single-cycle waveforms
　　•　User wavetables
　　　　◦　8 user-selectable waves per oscillator to build custom wavetables
　　　　◦　WaveScan parameter lets you morph through the wavetables
　　　　◦　Every patch can have two unique wavetables
　　•　Bit reduction: 11 settings from 2 to 16 bits, and Off
　　•　+/- 3 octave tuning range
　　•　Keytracking: 0-200%

Oscillator 3: fixed Wave oscillator
　　•　219 single-cycle waveforms
　　•　Bit reduction: 11 settings from 2 to 16 bits, and Off
　　•　+/- 3 octave tuning range
　　•　Keytracking: 0-200%

Dual Mutants per oscillator (Osc 1 and 2)
　　•　FM: Linear FM
　　　　◦　Selectable Modulator source:
　　　　　　-　Internal Sine & Triangle waves, Oscillators 1-3, Ring Mod, Noise generator, Mutants 1-4, External Mod inputs 1 & 2
　　•　WavStack™: Generates 5 detuned waves from the input source, with adjustable detune amount
　　•　Hard Sync (Osc Sync): gives that classic sync sweep sound
　　　　◦　Selectable sync input source: Oscillators 1-3
　　　　◦　Adjustable Hann window to shape the output
　　•　Pulse Width Modulation (PW-Orig): Adjusts the pulse width of any waveform
　　•　PW-Squeeze: Compresses the center section of the waveform, for a unique type of PWM
　　•　PW-ASM: 8 adjustable Warp points can be applied to the waveform, for a unique form of FM synthesis
　　　　◦　Warp points can be modulated individually through the Mod Matrix
　　•　Harmonic Sweep: scans through the harmonics of the incoming waveform
　　•　PhazDiff: creates a new sound by combining phase shifting and summing techniques
　　•　Depth control for all Mutants
　　•　FeedBack control for all Mutants (except WavStack): 0-150%
　　•　Ratio control for Osc Sync, Harmonic, and all PWM Mutants: 0.250:1 - 64:1
　　　　◦　Mutations occur up to 64 times in one waveform cycle, or as few as once in four cycles
　　•　Dry/Wet mix to blend the input source with the Mutant output

Noise Generator
　　•　White, Pink, Brown, Red, Blue, Violet, Grey noise sources

Ring Modulator
　　•　Selectable input source:
　　　　◦　Oscillators 1-3, Noise, Mutants 1-4, External Mod inputs 1 & 2
　　•　Depth control

Sound source mixer
　　•　Independent level control for Oscillators 1-3, Noise, and Ring Mod
　　•　Panning for each source
　　•　Filter routing mix
　　•　Each source can be soloed
　　　　◦　Solo status is saved with the patch

Two Filters
　　•　Series or parallel routing
　　•　Filter 1
　　　　◦　12 & 24dB/octave modern ladder (compensated)
　　　　◦　12 & 24dB/octave vintage ladder (uncompensated)
　　　　◦　3-Ler LP, BP, HP
　　　　◦　MS20 HP, LP
　　　　◦　Low Pass Gate
　　　　◦　STN LP, BP, HP
　　　　◦　1 pole LP
　　　　◦　8 pole LP
　　　　◦　Vocal filter
　　　　◦　Multiple vowel order options
　　　　　　-　Formant parameter
　　•　Filter 2 (SEM style)
　　　　◦　Continuously Variable Low pass > Band pass > High pass
　　　　◦　Continuously Variable Low pass > Notch > High pass

Patch-level parameters
　　•　Poly, Mono, and Unison modes
　　•　Two glide modes: Glide and Glissando
　　•　60 scales available, including microtonal
　　　　◦　New scales can be imported from third-party software
　　•　VoiceMod: independent modulation levels available per voice, per patch
　　•　MPE support
　　•　NRPN / CC automation capability
　　•　Randomize or initialize parameters, modules, or an entire patch

I actually owned a Hydrasynth desktop for a few months but I didn't like the front end Mac editor and struggled with making presets in it partially because I have a way easier time with plugin preset tweaking. Now there's a new Sound Quest 13 editor for Hydrasynth but I discovered the Elektron Digitone and it seems like a wonderful alternative to ANALOGy although it's not as similar as Hydrasynth.

I got overwhelmed with the features in Hydra and I'm afraid to buy one again and was really put off by the standard and purchased presets I got.

[utdgrant]

I'm hunting for something similar and i heard about Mutable Instruments Ambika, anyone knows about it?

I believe you have to build it from scratch, or get someone more skilled to build it for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_C6XPta1L8

[SA2K]

The Rubicon II eurorack module in the link I'm sharing seems like it's a more feature filled true analog ANALOGy alternative. I'm pleased that I found it in my searches. https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/rubicon-2/

[utdgrant]

The Rubicon II eurorack module in the link I'm sharing seems like it's a more feature filled true analog ANALOGy alternative. I'm pleased that I found it in my searches.

That appears to be a single monophonic oscillator. I thought you were wanting a full-featured polysynth in hardware?

in both mono+poly that has the same morphing oscillators/assignable filters/filter overdrive/envelopes/spread/detune

[SA2K]

The Rubicon II eurorack module in the link I'm sharing seems like it's a more feature filled true analog ANALOGy alternative. I'm pleased that I found it in my searches.

That appears to be a single monophonic oscillator. I thought you were wanting a full-featured polysynth in hardware?

in both mono+poly that has the same morphing oscillators/assignable filters/filter overdrive/envelopes/spread/detune

Although it's monophonic I'm working on a ModularGrid.com 2-3 mono oscillator setup. I'm not going to share the layout but I just wanted input about the module because it has very similar waveform "Folding" & or "Index" features to ANALOGy. Just a small idea with the assumption that the Rubicon II might work very nicely with a few Dixie II modules for more polyphony. https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/dixie-2-plus/ The Rubicon has several waveform outputs even though it's mono including a sub waveform out. I just discovered this other module also that I'm reviewing on Youtube https://www.modulargrid.net/e/cubusynth-engine I might want 2 dual osc cubusynths. 3 or 4 note polyphony could potentially be enough for me!

[SA2K]

I found a synth that matches ANALOGy known as the Moog One 16 voice. I can't afford it at all unless I can somehow do payments but I keep switching Voltage Modulars standalone app on here and there and wondering at the patches I made with it. Voltage has way more range than Moog One and I own lots of modules for it so I think I'm sticking with Voltage although in theory the fidelity is better on a Moog One.